Re: no more orange: more advice please?

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Posted by redrhi on October 22, 2004 at 07:27:16:

In reply to: no more orange posted by Debra on October 21, 2004 at 15:15:24:

I did some henna again last night, after letting the dye release for
over 12 hours. It did the job a lot better acually, even though I only
left in in for 2 hours since i already only did it a few days ago!

it is still a but orangey, but a lot darker, which is good as I am
trying to blend in the medium-red ends of my hair from when i used to
use chemical dyes with my dark brown natural regrowth. Henna seems to
work a lot better at blending in roots than semi-permanent chemical
dyes i have tried in the past, i think because it coats the hair,
whereas chemical dyes seemed to react differently to the two different
colours, leaving another two different colours! and three when the
roots from that started to show!

regarding development time: from my last application I can definitely
see that this helps a lot. However, due to a lack of a central heating
system in my house (water is heated electrically), I do not have an
airing cupboard or particularly warm place to keep my henna while it
develops. This time I wrapped it up in a towel with a hot water
bottle, but I had to keep refreshing the water to keep it hot every 2
or 3 hours, which is hardly convenient, especially if I want to
develop my henna while I am at work or asleep next time! Does anyone
have any ideas for how to keep it warm, or whether it is imperative to
do so? maybe I could get a heat mat or something? Does anyone know how
much these cost and where to get them from?

anyway, it seems to be getting darker, although still only a darker
coppery orange rather than red. I am wondering whether it is frequent
and/or long term application which has given people the deep red
tones? If I keep going every few weeks for a while, will it get more
red or just darker orange?

Thank you for all the help and advice, without this page I would
probably still be using clairol "herbal" essences, (never seem a herb
in it's life!) and be despairing at my inability to grow my hair due
to split ends etc. My hair is now longer than it has ever been since I
started dying it 7 years ago and is showing no signs of needing cut!

: Mixing a little indigo (let it release dye before combining) with your
: henna definitely gets rid of the orange tint. It isn't even orange
: during the oxidation process.
:
: I started with 50/50 after reading Kim's mix and have been lowering
: the amount of indigo with every application.
:
: In fact I just hennaed for the 5th time last night with about 15%
: indigo because the indigo buildup was making my hair too dark. I was
: tempted to go 100% henna but didn't want to risk the dreaded orange
: tint again even for a few days.
:
: I also put a few tablespoons of stale clove powder in for the first
: time for the smell. The combo with the henna hay smell is just
: delightful and I don't think it changed the color. Highly recommend
: if you like the smell of cloves.
:
: IMHO I don't think the extra additives do much for color. I tried the
: red wine the first time and I was still very orange especially on my
: old highlights. The wine and henna smell together reminded me of baby
: poop, I think bottled lemon juice works just fine.
:
: Henna is the best thing that ever happened to my hair, especially
: since I hate every minute at the salon. No more grey, no more daily
: conditioners, no more expensive coloring treatments-- Hang in there
: until you get the color you want.

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I don’t heat my henna paste. Faery Ring 14:06:13 10/22/2004 (0)
I put mine in an oven... krazee 09:17:16 10/22/2004 (1)
- Re: I put mine in an oven... redrhi 10:36:49 10/22/2004 (0)

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: I did some henna again last night, after letting the dye release for : over 12 hours. It did the job a lot better acually, even though I only : left in in for 2 hours since i already only did it a few days ago! : : it is still a but orangey, but a lot darker, which is good as I am : trying to blend in the medium-red ends of my hair from when i used to : use chemical dyes with my dark brown natural regrowth. Henna seems to : work a lot better at blending in roots than semi-permanent chemical : dyes i have tried in the past, i think because it coats the hair, : whereas chemical dyes seemed to react differently to the two different : colours, leaving another two different colours! and three when the : roots from that started to show! : : regarding development time: from my last application I can definitely : see that this helps a lot. However, due to a lack of a central heating : system in my house (water is heated electrically), I do not have an : airing cupboard or particularly warm place to keep my henna while it : develops. This time I wrapped it up in a towel with a hot water : bottle, but I had to keep refreshing the water to keep it hot every 2 : or 3 hours, which is hardly convenient, especially if I want to : develop my henna while I am at work or asleep next time! Does anyone : have any ideas for how to keep it warm, or whether it is imperative to : do so? maybe I could get a heat mat or something? Does anyone know how : much these cost and where to get them from? : : anyway, it seems to be getting darker, although still only a darker : coppery orange rather than red. I am wondering whether it is frequent : and/or long term application which has given people the deep red : tones? If I keep going every few weeks for a while, will it get more : red or just darker orange? : : Thank you for all the help and advice, without this page I would : probably still be using clairol "herbal" essences, (never seem a herb : in it's life!) and be despairing at my inability to grow my hair due : to split ends etc. My hair is now longer than it has ever been since I : started dying it 7 years ago and is showing no signs of needing cut! : : : : Mixing a little indigo (let it release dye before combining) with your : : henna definitely gets rid of the orange tint. It isn't even orange : : during the oxidation process. : : : : I started with 50/50 after reading Kim's mix and have been lowering : : the amount of indigo with every application. : : : : In fact I just hennaed for the 5th time last night with about 15% : : indigo because the indigo buildup was making my hair too dark. I was : : tempted to go 100% henna but didn't want to risk the dreaded orange : : tint again even for a few days. : : : : I also put a few tablespoons of stale clove powder in for the first : : time for the smell. The combo with the henna hay smell is just : : delightful and I don't think it changed the color. Highly recommend : : if you like the smell of cloves. : : : : IMHO I don't think the extra additives do much for color. I tried the : : red wine the first time and I was still very orange especially on my : : old highlights. The wine and henna smell together reminded me of baby : : poop, I think bottled lemon juice works just fine. : : : : Henna is the best thing that ever happened to my hair, especially : : since I hate every minute at the salon. No more grey, no more daily : : conditioners, no more expensive coloring treatments-- Hang in there : : until you get the color you want.
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