Re: A Thought on 'cooling down' warm tones

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Posted by Diane on July 13, 2004 at 09:37:08:

In reply to: Re: A Thought on 'cooling down' warm tones posted by iris on July 12, 2004 at 05:24:27:

: : I have no idea if this would work, but it's worth a try, if
anyone
: : wants to 'cool down' their henna tones..
: :
: : Quite a few companies make purple shampoos & rinses, for blonde
: : hair.. to take the brassiness/orangeness off (though it is only
: : usually a temporary effect). I used some of these with success,
when
: : I had blonde hair.
: :
: : So I was just wondering if they'd take the brassiness off hennaed
: : hair & maybe cool it down a little..
: : Has anyone tried using these kinds of products before?
: I have. it worked to tone down the orange, but I didn't like the
colour it gave me (a
: dull brown).
:
: I've been through the whole trying-to-get-rid-of-the-orange-thing.
the first time I
: hennaed was a little over a year ago. it came out traffic-light
orange the first time,
: and it didn't look good on me at all (made me look pale and sick).
I remember vividly
: standing in front of the mirror and thinking 'oh my god, WHAT have
I done ;-)!' then I
: tried all sorts of things to get rid of the orange: beet juice, a
natural food coloring in
: bright red (beet root, I think), adding coffee, special effects (in
magenta), the blue
: shampoos, indigo. I was completely obsessed with trying to get rid
of the orange, but
: none of it really did the trick.
:
: in the end I think the additives really do not make much of a
difference (well, indigo
: does make a difference, but washes out within a couple of washes
for me). I think it's
: mostly a matter of waiting for oxidization. most of the oxidization
takes place within
: the first two days, but it seems to be a continuing process. if you
have people around
: you that have been using henna for years and years, you will see
that they all get a
: similar colour in the end - it ends up more purple than orange,
really. that's the
: colour of oxidized henna, I guess. very pretty.
:
: I am now rather happy with using body art quality henna, with red
wine and cloves.
: the first couple of days I still get more orange than I like,
although it has never been
: as bad again as it was the first time. I have given up trying to
fight the orange, I just
: do a couple of things that make it easier: I only henna when I
don't have to be out in
: public too much for a couple of days. I also make sure to do it
when there won't be
: too much sunshine (that's easy - I'm in holland ;-)), because the
orange shows more
: in the sunshine. in those first couple of days after henna I also
make sure to wear
: colours that go well with it and make me feel happy (bright pinks
and reds). this
: routine really works for me. you just have to give it some time,
that's all.
:
: good luck,
: iris

All I can add to that Iris, is "what you said!"!!
In fact I remember your reply to my post after my first henna when I
was a bit freaked out by how orange my hair was! It really helped me
then, and I must say everything you said is quite true.

I have also found that no matter what else I did to my mix or my hair
I was ending up with the same orangey shade. However, even though I
have only henna'ed a few times, I can see the deepening of colour and
the orange is nowhere near as shocking in the first few days.

I also find it easy to avoid standing outside in full sunlight (Irish
climate HAS to be worse than Netherlands!) I wear a bandana if
necessary (although I have gotten more and more confident about
flaunting the orange!) and I find that wearing a purple top works for
me --purple flatters all skin tones and goes great with orange!

I fear that I won't be able to get away with this hair colour 10 or
15 years down the road (way too vibrant for fading skin tones) but
for now I'm enjoying it.

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: : : I have no idea if this would work, but it's worth a try, if : anyone : : : wants to 'cool down' their henna tones.. : : : : : : Quite a few companies make purple shampoos & rinses, for blonde : : : hair.. to take the brassiness/orangeness off (though it is only : : : usually a temporary effect). I used some of these with success, : when : : : I had blonde hair. : : : : : : So I was just wondering if they'd take the brassiness off hennaed : : : hair & maybe cool it down a little.. : : : Has anyone tried using these kinds of products before? : : I have. it worked to tone down the orange, but I didn't like the : colour it gave me (a : : dull brown). : : : : I've been through the whole trying-to-get-rid-of-the-orange-thing. : the first time I : : hennaed was a little over a year ago. it came out traffic-light : orange the first time, : : and it didn't look good on me at all (made me look pale and sick). : I remember vividly : : standing in front of the mirror and thinking 'oh my god, WHAT have : I done ;-)!' then I : : tried all sorts of things to get rid of the orange: beet juice, a : natural food coloring in : : bright red (beet root, I think), adding coffee, special effects (in : magenta), the blue : : shampoos, indigo. I was completely obsessed with trying to get rid : of the orange, but : : none of it really did the trick. : : : : in the end I think the additives really do not make much of a : difference (well, indigo : : does make a difference, but washes out within a couple of washes : for me). I think it's : : mostly a matter of waiting for oxidization. most of the oxidization : takes place within : : the first two days, but it seems to be a continuing process. if you : have people around : : you that have been using henna for years and years, you will see : that they all get a : : similar colour in the end - it ends up more purple than orange, : really. that's the : : colour of oxidized henna, I guess. very pretty. : : : : I am now rather happy with using body art quality henna, with red : wine and cloves. : : the first couple of days I still get more orange than I like, : although it has never been : : as bad again as it was the first time. I have given up trying to : fight the orange, I just : : do a couple of things that make it easier: I only henna when I : don't have to be out in : : public too much for a couple of days. I also make sure to do it : when there won't be : : too much sunshine (that's easy - I'm in holland ;-)), because the : orange shows more : : in the sunshine. in those first couple of days after henna I also : make sure to wear : : colours that go well with it and make me feel happy (bright pinks : and reds). this : : routine really works for me. you just have to give it some time, : that's all. : : : : good luck, : : iris : : : All I can add to that Iris, is "what you said!"!! : In fact I remember your reply to my post after my first henna when I : was a bit freaked out by how orange my hair was! It really helped me : then, and I must say everything you said is quite true. : : I have also found that no matter what else I did to my mix or my hair : I was ending up with the same orangey shade. However, even though I : have only henna'ed a few times, I can see the deepening of colour and : the orange is nowhere near as shocking in the first few days. : : I also find it easy to avoid standing outside in full sunlight (Irish : climate HAS to be worse than Netherlands!) I wear a bandana if : necessary (although I have gotten more and more confident about : flaunting the orange!) and I find that wearing a purple top works for : me --purple flatters all skin tones and goes great with orange! : : I fear that I won't be able to get away with this hair colour 10 or : 15 years down the road (way too vibrant for fading skin tones) but : for now I'm enjoying it.
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