Re: my experience - not purple, but good.

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Posted by Diane on October 13, 2004 at 17:14:27:

In reply to: Re: my experience - not purple, but good. posted by Kim in MI on October 9, 2004 at 18:05:47:

: : Hi Kim!
:
: Hi Diane! :-)
:
: : I haven't been here much lately, but I am getting ready to henna
: : again on the kids term break in a couple of weeks ( I still try
to
: : schedule it around a time that I don't have to appear in public
for a
: : while because I still suffer from a significant "oranging" and it
: : usually takes the better part of a week for complete oxidation on
my
: : hair.
:
: What have you tried in later mixes? I haven't had the *orange*
feel since I started
: adding the indigo. I also don't notice significant oxidation, the
times I was orange I
: stayed orange :LOL
:
: : Anyway I am still toying with the possibility of adding indigo,
: : because I am still interested in a cooler colour. However I'm
still
: : so hesitant to do it with everything I have read here.
:
: What have you read that made you hesitant? My *guess* is that you
aren't going to
: get cooler reds with indigo alone, and my fiddling with *other*
additives (beet root,
: coffee, black walnut, all to "push" the red to another color)
seemed not to help much
: at all. I think it was the indigo, really.
:
: : Do you find the indigo fading quickly?
:
: No ... but maybe a little. I did mine last Saturday and inside it
looked quite brown-
: black (ash brown) for a few days. Today it looked more dark auburn
than ash brown
: ... so it might have faded some, but has kept its cool tones.
:
: : You do a one step process, right? Do you mix it all up in one
: : go, or do the dye release with each separately and then mix it
together?
:
: I do a one-step process. I mix the henna with lemon juice the
night before, giving it
: about 12 hours to the projected application time. In the morning
when I see the dye
: starting to release from the henna I mix the indigo, this time I
used really hot water,
: just a few minutes after boiling it, for the indigo, and in 20
minutes I saw a LOT of
: dye release, I was worried maybe it was TOO much, but it seems to
have worked fine.
:
: : Where do you get your indigo, from Catherine?
:
: This time my indigo was from Catherine. I have also ordered from
: www.everydayhenna.com because she sells other things (beetroot,
EO's) that I
: wanted/needed.
:
: : And most importantly, do you find any green cast in
: : spots? I am really afraid of getting green where my blonder hairs
: : where, not to mention the greys -- although I have a good amount
of
: : henna already in the hair.
:
: No, In fact if anything it is my darker hairs that have picked up
the indigo more, and
: the gray (and I have substantial gray at the roots) is more
coppery, but does not come
: across as orange as the first few times. I actually took pictures
of the roots (albeit
: not great pictures) that I can try to post. (I sent them to
Catherine hoping she can
: use them, but I'm not sure if she can ... I haven't heard back from
her, but I know
: she's very busy!) I will post them in a separate thread to you,
one pic at a time, so as
: not to hijack this one too much LOL.
:
: : I KNOW you have discussed all this before, but if you wouldn't
mind a
: : short recap I would really appreciate it (I have read your mixes
page
: : lots of times, but maybe your experience is updated since then?)
:
: I've done the henna/indigo mix once or twice since the mixes. I did
send Catherine an
: updated picture and mix info this time, but again, don't know if
she got it or would
: like to use it.
:
: : thanks a million Kim! (BTW, remember I'd told you the back of
your
: : head looked exactly like it could have been me?! I've since very
much
: : against my will cut off about 2-3". The hair loss from after the
baby
: : had made it so skimpy and thin and then the regrowth was starting
to
: : show and it looked bizarre, so twins no more!)
:
: Oh, sad to lose my twin! :) I'm trying *hard* to grow mine out but
also am fighting
: the skimpy thin stuff after losing a LOT after my last baby was
born ... I am expecting
: again and HOPING that this time I'll grow a LOT of hair, LOL, but
so far I'm still losing
: only a little slower than right when post-partum shedding started
and "baby" is 18
: months old LOL. oh well, maybe I'll have long skimpy hair.
:
: :)
: Kim

Hi again Kim,

My biggest fear about the indigo was that my greys and lighter copper
strands would take up the indigo as green. I have read that here from
other peoples experience. I have never done anything more adventurous
with my mix than adding cloves and using red wine hoping for a darker
result; however loads and loads of strand tests have proven that I
get pretty much the same colour no matter what I use in my mix.

Off to find myself some indigo! thanks again Kim!!!

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: : : Hi Kim! : : : : Hi Diane! :-) : : : : : I haven't been here much lately, but I am getting ready to henna : : : again on the kids term break in a couple of weeks ( I still try : to : : : schedule it around a time that I don't have to appear in public : for a : : : while because I still suffer from a significant "oranging" and it : : : usually takes the better part of a week for complete oxidation on : my : : : hair. : : : : What have you tried in later mixes? I haven't had the orange : feel since I started : : adding the indigo. I also don't notice significant oxidation, the : times I was orange I : : stayed orange :LOL : : : : : Anyway I am still toying with the possibility of adding indigo, : : : because I am still interested in a cooler colour. However I'm : still : : : so hesitant to do it with everything I have read here. : : : : What have you read that made you hesitant? My guess is that you : aren't going to : : get cooler reds with indigo alone, and my fiddling with other : additives (beet root, : : coffee, black walnut, all to "push" the red to another color) : seemed not to help much : : at all. I think it was the indigo, really. : : : : : Do you find the indigo fading quickly? : : : : No ... but maybe a little. I did mine last Saturday and inside it : looked quite brown- : : black (ash brown) for a few days. Today it looked more dark auburn : than ash brown : : ... so it might have faded some, but has kept its cool tones. : : : : : You do a one step process, right? Do you mix it all up in one : : : go, or do the dye release with each separately and then mix it : together? : : : : I do a one-step process. I mix the henna with lemon juice the : night before, giving it : : about 12 hours to the projected application time. In the morning : when I see the dye : : starting to release from the henna I mix the indigo, this time I : used really hot water, : : just a few minutes after boiling it, for the indigo, and in 20 : minutes I saw a LOT of : : dye release, I was worried maybe it was TOO much, but it seems to : have worked fine. : : : : : Where do you get your indigo, from Catherine? : : : : This time my indigo was from Catherine. I have also ordered from : : www.everydayhenna.com because she sells other things (beetroot, : EO's) that I : : wanted/needed. : : : : : And most importantly, do you find any green cast in : : : spots? I am really afraid of getting green where my blonder hairs : : : where, not to mention the greys -- although I have a good amount : of : : : henna already in the hair. : : : : No, In fact if anything it is my darker hairs that have picked up : the indigo more, and : : the gray (and I have substantial gray at the roots) is more : coppery, but does not come : : across as orange as the first few times. I actually took pictures : of the roots (albeit : : not great pictures) that I can try to post. (I sent them to : Catherine hoping she can : : use them, but I'm not sure if she can ... I haven't heard back from : her, but I know : : she's very busy!) I will post them in a separate thread to you, : one pic at a time, so as : : not to hijack this one too much LOL. : : : : : I KNOW you have discussed all this before, but if you wouldn't : mind a : : : short recap I would really appreciate it (I have read your mixes : page : : : lots of times, but maybe your experience is updated since then?) : : : : I've done the henna/indigo mix once or twice since the mixes. I did : send Catherine an : : updated picture and mix info this time, but again, don't know if : she got it or would : : like to use it. : : : : : thanks a million Kim! (BTW, remember I'd told you the back of : your : : : head looked exactly like it could have been me?! I've since very : much : : : against my will cut off about 2-3". The hair loss from after the : baby : : : had made it so skimpy and thin and then the regrowth was starting : to : : : show and it looked bizarre, so twins no more!) : : : : Oh, sad to lose my twin! :) I'm trying hard to grow mine out but : also am fighting : : the skimpy thin stuff after losing a LOT after my last baby was : born ... I am expecting : : again and HOPING that this time I'll grow a LOT of hair, LOL, but : so far I'm still losing : : only a little slower than right when post-partum shedding started : and "baby" is 18 : : months old LOL. oh well, maybe I'll have long skimpy hair. : : : : :) : : Kim : : : Hi again Kim, : : My biggest fear about the indigo was that my greys and lighter copper : strands would take up the indigo as green. I have read that here from : other peoples experience. I have never done anything more adventurous : with my mix than adding cloves and using red wine hoping for a darker : result; however loads and loads of strand tests have proven that I : get pretty much the same colour no matter what I use in my mix. : : Off to find myself some indigo! thanks again Kim!!!
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