Re: How to even out the grey....

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Posted by hannahl on July 13, 2004 at 11:58:05:

In reply to: Re: How to even out the grey.... posted by Diane on July 11, 2004 at 17:02:16:

:
: ::
: : My worry was that walnut and indigo would give too dark a result.
: I really don't want dark,
: : I'm too fair--especially brows and lashes--just want to take
: the "edge" off the red.
: : I'mbeginning to get a little discouraged reading back a bit--so
: many people have similar
: : problems and concerns. I'm wondering if I can thaw the left over
: henna I used, even with
: : the turmeric in it, and add say 25 g of indigo. What do you think
: about using cassia in the
: : mix? I don't think I found anyone who'd used all three--that (in
: my mind at least)seems
: : like an option but I don't know if it would work or if they
: conflict with each other. Oh well,
: : I can always get that haircut. The thing that bothers me about
: that is getting flack from a
: : stylist because I didn't get a chemical dye at the salon and did it
: myself.
:
: Hi again, Hannah,
: I really understand where you are coming from, and to tell you the
: truth, as you said, plenty of posts have come up here on this subject
: and after everything I read I personally decided to abandon any
: attempts at toning down the red with walnut or indigo.
:
: I also can't afford to go darker as my colouring is very fair. In
: fact, just the red I have achieved with henna is already much darker
: than my natural colour ( and they say you should always go lighter in
: your hair colour as you age...oops!lol)
:
: I just didn't want to chance getting the greenish tint to my greys
: (have read so many times here; although pure henna over that will
: seemingly get rid of the green) and also don't want to go brown; so I
: have stuck with just henna. The only thing I wanted to suggest to you
: is that maybe you have nothing to lose by doing henna a couple more
: times and see what happens. I have only done my hair 3 times and it
: has deepened in tone considerably. Still red, but much less coppery.
: You can always decide to go over with indigo at any stage...
:
: Oh and do check out Kim from MI's mix if you haven't already.

Hi Diane--it's so encouraging to know there are others who've encountered the same
things (I don't want to call them problems, it's all an experiment and a lot of fun). My first
henna is already much darker than my natural color too--I was hoping to eventually
lighten it up with cassia and cooling the tones with indigo--but nothing is easy. then
there's the gel problem if you add indigo to the basic mix and alone it's so messy. Then
again, people seem to find that indigo washes out. (and I've found as well as you and
many of the others that 1) a strand test doesn't give a good sense of how you're whole
head is going to turn out and 2) that there doesn't seem to be much difference made by
the additives. I think the basic difference has got to come from what color you have to
start with and how the henna reacts with your hair and the color--or lack as in the cases
of those of us who have a grey problem.

so it's back to the drawing board for me--I don't see any indications that adding cassia
should do any harm--I don't know if anyone has tried it with indigo--but here goes.

I did se Kim's mix and would be happy to get something close to that--let's see what
happens.

thanks to you and all the others who've made suggestions--will report further results!

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: : : : :: : : : My worry was that walnut and indigo would give too dark a result. : : I really don't want dark, : : : I'm too fair--especially brows and lashes--just want to take : : the "edge" off the red. : : : I'mbeginning to get a little discouraged reading back a bit--so : : many people have similar : : : problems and concerns. I'm wondering if I can thaw the left over : : henna I used, even with : : : the turmeric in it, and add say 25 g of indigo. What do you think : : about using cassia in the : : : mix? I don't think I found anyone who'd used all three--that (in : : my mind at least)seems : : : like an option but I don't know if it would work or if they : : conflict with each other. Oh well, : : : I can always get that haircut. The thing that bothers me about : : that is getting flack from a : : : stylist because I didn't get a chemical dye at the salon and did it : : myself. : : : : Hi again, Hannah, : : I really understand where you are coming from, and to tell you the : : truth, as you said, plenty of posts have come up here on this subject : : and after everything I read I personally decided to abandon any : : attempts at toning down the red with walnut or indigo. : : : : I also can't afford to go darker as my colouring is very fair. In : : fact, just the red I have achieved with henna is already much darker : : than my natural colour ( and they say you should always go lighter in : : your hair colour as you age...oops!lol) : : : : I just didn't want to chance getting the greenish tint to my greys : : (have read so many times here; although pure henna over that will : : seemingly get rid of the green) and also don't want to go brown; so I : : have stuck with just henna. The only thing I wanted to suggest to you : : is that maybe you have nothing to lose by doing henna a couple more : : times and see what happens. I have only done my hair 3 times and it : : has deepened in tone considerably. Still red, but much less coppery. : : You can always decide to go over with indigo at any stage... : : : : Oh and do check out Kim from MI's mix if you haven't already. : : : : Hi Diane--it's so encouraging to know there are others who've encountered the same : things (I don't want to call them problems, it's all an experiment and a lot of fun). My first : henna is already much darker than my natural color too--I was hoping to eventually : lighten it up with cassia and cooling the tones with indigo--but nothing is easy. then : there's the gel problem if you add indigo to the basic mix and alone it's so messy. Then : again, people seem to find that indigo washes out. (and I've found as well as you and : many of the others that 1) a strand test doesn't give a good sense of how you're whole : head is going to turn out and 2) that there doesn't seem to be much difference made by : the additives. I think the basic difference has got to come from what color you have to : start with and how the henna reacts with your hair and the color--or lack as in the cases : of those of us who have a grey problem. : : so it's back to the drawing board for me--I don't see any indications that adding cassia : should do any harm--I don't know if anyone has tried it with indigo--but here goes. : : I did se Kim's mix and would be happy to get something close to that--let's see what : happens. : : thanks to you and all the others who've made suggestions--will report further results!
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