Re: Yeah, but.....

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Posted by hannahl on July 10, 2004 at 11:56:26:

In reply to: Yeah, but..... posted by Debra on July 10, 2004 at 00:58:55:

: : Let me help you out a little with the ingredients you added:
: :
: : lemon= it makes henna a light red color
: : wine= should be like a burgundy/wine red color
: : coffee= this makes your henna brownish color or it can make an
: : auburn/dark dark red color (with additional ingredients).. however
: : with henna and coffee, you will get a brown color.
: :
: : I hope you didn't add all of these ingredients into your henna,
: : because that's not really how it works. If you want to tone ANYTHING
: : down, you can NOT add more of the thing! That just adds more "toning"
: : needed. To tone it down, you need to leave it alone. Henna fades away
: : as quick as may be a month.
: :
: : You know, it isn't exactly necessary to add anything to your henna.
: : If you just add water, you'll get that classic redish-orange color.
: : It's beautiful and probably the safest in case a mistake is made.
: :
: : I hope I helped! :)
: :
:
: On my test strands (I took many before last hair cut), I did every
: combo of the extras using Catherine's henna--lemon, wine, ground
: expresso, and very black brewed coffee . While the pastes looked
: different, after a few washes the test strands all looked the same to me.
:
: On my head I went with red wine in initial mix and added a bit of hot
: black coffee after the overnight dye release. I'd happily take more
: burgandy or brown, but the additives didn't do much to my hair.
:
: My hair looks exactly like the test strands, it just doesn't look very
: good on me in mass. It may be first time redhead shock, but it would
: look better and be less shocking without the warm copper tone.
:
: I really need to color the grey and the henna did a great job with
: that, can't find one. I think my old blonde highlights are a big part
: of the problem since they are glowing copper. They will eventually
: grow out but I can't wait that long the way it looks now. Letting it
: wear out isn't going to work.
:
: I am patiently waiting out the oxidation and when the indigo arrives I
: may do a 50/50 henna indigo mix and leave it on longer than 4 hours.
: Darker would be better.
:
: Anyone try this with success? Any major mistakes I should avoid?
: Anyone hate their red hair on them at first, but learned to love it
: with time?

Hello Diane,

Yes there are others who suffer from first time red-head shock in spite of 3 strand tests. i
found just as you did that it looked different on my whole head. The warm coppery tone is
just the thing that shocks me too--especially since (as I think you said you have) I have
cool skin tones. It's a beautiul color--for someone else. I just did mine last Tues. and am
waiting for indigo and cassia. An additional problem for me is that as well as needing a
cool color, I also need something not too dark since I'm fair with light (and sparse) brows
and lashes. I posted another request about how to cool it down without making it too
dark. I 've also considered putting the leftovers (just as it's already mixed) on just the
front. But that will probably make it too dark when I add indigo another time. so I have
no answers for you, just more questions and will eagerly watch the posts. thanks to
everyone for help so far and in advance.

PS a short layered hairstyle is a good way to minimize a color you don't want and the
unwanted part. I got rid of my highlights in 2-3 months--depending how often I had it
cut and how short. Of course everyone doesn't want hair that short.

PPS another problem I have is that I hennaed over a previous henna from an inferior brand
which I let grow in for 8 weeks. those roots are significantly different from the rest but I
don't want to darken them too much yet esp. since I haven't decided whether to cut my
hair again and I want to be able to experiment with a lighter mix if possible. I'll be
devastated if I can't find a shade to suit me after admiring all the beautiful heads of hair
on this site!

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Oxidation and Raspberry Juice Debra 18:14:46 7/10/2004 (2)
- no problem Alison 23:38:36 7/10/2004 (0)
- Re: Oxidation and Raspberry Juice hannahl 21:55:39 7/10/2004 (0)
Re: Yeah, but..... hannahl 11:59:17 7/10/2004 (0)

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: : : Let me help you out a little with the ingredients you added: : : : : : : lemon= it makes henna a light red color : : : wine= should be like a burgundy/wine red color : : : coffee= this makes your henna brownish color or it can make an : : : auburn/dark dark red color (with additional ingredients).. however : : : with henna and coffee, you will get a brown color. : : : : : : I hope you didn't add all of these ingredients into your henna, : : : because that's not really how it works. If you want to tone ANYTHING : : : down, you can NOT add more of the thing! That just adds more "toning" : : : needed. To tone it down, you need to leave it alone. Henna fades away : : : as quick as may be a month. : : : : : : You know, it isn't exactly necessary to add anything to your henna. : : : If you just add water, you'll get that classic redish-orange color. : : : It's beautiful and probably the safest in case a mistake is made. : : : : : : I hope I helped! :) : : : : : : : On my test strands (I took many before last hair cut), I did every : : combo of the extras using Catherine's henna--lemon, wine, ground : : expresso, and very black brewed coffee . While the pastes looked : : different, after a few washes the test strands all looked the same to me. : : : : On my head I went with red wine in initial mix and added a bit of hot : : black coffee after the overnight dye release. I'd happily take more : : burgandy or brown, but the additives didn't do much to my hair. : : : : My hair looks exactly like the test strands, it just doesn't look very : : good on me in mass. It may be first time redhead shock, but it would : : look better and be less shocking without the warm copper tone. : : : : I really need to color the grey and the henna did a great job with : : that, can't find one. I think my old blonde highlights are a big part : : of the problem since they are glowing copper. They will eventually : : grow out but I can't wait that long the way it looks now. Letting it : : wear out isn't going to work. : : : : I am patiently waiting out the oxidation and when the indigo arrives I : : may do a 50/50 henna indigo mix and leave it on longer than 4 hours. : : Darker would be better. : : : : Anyone try this with success? Any major mistakes I should avoid? : : Anyone hate their red hair on them at first, but learned to love it : : with time? : : Hello Diane, : : Yes there are others who suffer from first time red-head shock in spite of 3 strand tests. i : found just as you did that it looked different on my whole head. The warm coppery tone is : just the thing that shocks me too--especially since (as I think you said you have) I have : cool skin tones. It's a beautiul color--for someone else. I just did mine last Tues. and am : waiting for indigo and cassia. An additional problem for me is that as well as needing a : cool color, I also need something not too dark since I'm fair with light (and sparse) brows : and lashes. I posted another request about how to cool it down without making it too : dark. I 've also considered putting the leftovers (just as it's already mixed) on just the : front. But that will probably make it too dark when I add indigo another time. so I have : no answers for you, just more questions and will eagerly watch the posts. thanks to : everyone for help so far and in advance. : : PS a short layered hairstyle is a good way to minimize a color you don't want and the : unwanted part. I got rid of my highlights in 2-3 months--depending how often I had it : cut and how short. Of course everyone doesn't want hair that short. : : PPS another problem I have is that I hennaed over a previous henna from an inferior brand : which I let grow in for 8 weeks. those roots are significantly different from the rest but I : don't want to darken them too much yet esp. since I haven't decided whether to cut my : hair again and I want to be able to experiment with a lighter mix if possible. I'll be : devastated if I can't find a shade to suit me after admiring all the beautiful heads of hair : on this site!
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