Re: Trying..............

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Posted by Pierre on April 1, 2004 at 15:49:04:

In reply to: Trying.............. posted by Catherine Cartwright-Jones on April 1, 2004 at 10:23:07:

: The Roman alphabet and transliteration is a BEAR. Every search and
: library that I can access is tied to that. I understand totally that
: interpretation of one language to another is not only based on
: cultural concepts but the way we learn to hear and speak as young
: children .... and god help the anthro if his informant has a lisp!
: Much of my PhD research is based on languages that no longer exist,
: some of which were written without vowels, and more is based on
: diaries of travelers. Sometimes they got it right, sometimes they
: guessed kinda near target, and sometime the locals were just %^&*&
: with them! May I also add that henna was largely a women's practice
: and the communication gap between men and women was such a cultural
: abyss that most of the information just plain fell into the pit?
:
: I am in contact with a source in India who's trying to track this
: down. The dissertation wherein I pulled Vashma was written by a
: Jordanian who did his PhD at the University of Wales, and he's
: referencing products from India. This is a %$^& joke.

In Google you can look for ???????, and you'll get three results. (One is a stub in
Wikipedia - any of you is welcome to add to it - and the others are songs in Hindi.)
But of course words are spelled slightly differently in different Indic languages.
Then there are two distinct letters transliterated as "sh" and one as "s", whereas
Arabic has one "sh" and two "s" IIRR. On top of that, "a" could represent a long
sound or a short one, and they are written differently in Nagari. So unless the
Jordanian has the Nagari spelling in his writeup, you don't know what to look for.

An annoyance in Google: I can't type the accent in Greek (I probably need to
update my X server; I've typed the accent on a friend's laptop), and when I
search Google for something in Greek, it doesn't ignore accents.

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Erudite chap, aren't you! Elettaria 20:58:12 4/2/2004 (1)
- Re: Erudite chap, aren't you! Pierre 22:09:04 4/2/2004 (0)

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: : The Roman alphabet and transliteration is a BEAR. Every search and : : library that I can access is tied to that. I understand totally that : : interpretation of one language to another is not only based on : : cultural concepts but the way we learn to hear and speak as young : : children .... and god help the anthro if his informant has a lisp! : : Much of my PhD research is based on languages that no longer exist, : : some of which were written without vowels, and more is based on : : diaries of travelers. Sometimes they got it right, sometimes they : : guessed kinda near target, and sometime the locals were just %^&*& : : with them! May I also add that henna was largely a women's practice : : and the communication gap between men and women was such a cultural : : abyss that most of the information just plain fell into the pit? : : : : I am in contact with a source in India who's trying to track this : : down. The dissertation wherein I pulled Vashma was written by a : : Jordanian who did his PhD at the University of Wales, and he's : : referencing products from India. This is a %$^& joke. : : In Google you can look for ???????, and you'll get three results. (One is a stub in : Wikipedia - any of you is welcome to add to it - and the others are songs in Hindi.) : But of course words are spelled slightly differently in different Indic languages. : Then there are two distinct letters transliterated as "sh" and one as "s", whereas : Arabic has one "sh" and two "s" IIRR. On top of that, "a" could represent a long : sound or a short one, and they are written differently in Nagari. So unless the : Jordanian has the Nagari spelling in his writeup, you don't know what to look for. : : An annoyance in Google: I can't type the accent in Greek (I probably need to : update my X server; I've typed the accent on a friend's laptop), and when I : search Google for something in Greek, it doesn't ignore accents.
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